“Oh, I’m sorry! My name’s Nick. I’m a reporter out here in Santa Monica, and I just finished up an interview with Julia [Child] for our paper out here.”
I was really going to have to get my phone number unlisted.
“I’d like to get your thoughts on some things. Because I asked her about you, and frankly, she was kind of a pill about it. Is this a bad time?”
“Oh. No. It’s fine.”
When I hung up the phone five minutes later, I felt numb.
…I sat on the couch beside Eric…. “That was a reporter from California. He just interviewed Julia. He asked her about me. She hates me.” I giggled, like I do in these breathless situations. ”She thinks I’m not respectful or not serious or something.”
…Eric put his arm over my shoulder. “What is she, ninety?”
“Ninety-One,” I sniffled.
“See? She probably doesn’t have the first idea what a blog is.“
…”I don’t know. Maybe she thinks I’m taking advantage or I’m — I’m not –” I was taken surprise by a sudden rush of tears. “I thought I was — I’m sorry if I –”
And then abruptly I was wailing….
–Julie Powell, Julie and Julia, pp. 333-334
So there was a Simon Fraser University Masters thesis written extensively about me and seven other “mommybloggers” (grrr…). I heard about it yesterday, of all places, when I was sitting at Podcamp TO, listening to a panel discussion, of all things, about what happens when social media goes wrong. My heart started pounding when I heard — my face turned beat red, palms sweating, hands shaking.
I’m used to people responding to my individual posts in the comments, on twitter, even on email. I’m definitely not used to someone reading my blog from start to finish, making gross assumptions based on posts here and there, and then publishing these gross assumptions and frustrating misreadings in a thesis — both offline and on — and not telling me about it, even after the fact.
At first I was furious. And I definitely (over)reacted on twitter:
I got really upset that The Thesis wasn’t in fact about the “works” themselves or the genre of blogging, as indicated in The Thesis’ abstract, and that, rather, it was about our lives, our income, whether or not we love that our children are away (for 2.5 hours, hello) at preschool, and so on. When Danigirl sent me the abstract (which was all I could see for hours until I got home to open the pdf file that contained The Thesis), I was a little flattered and excited. To be studied in the context of Bakhtin’s Dialogic, for example, and to be categorized as “Canadian Women’s Literature,” was so cool. Bring it on!
But, when I opened the document and searched my name…, I was floored. All those assumptions about all sorts of irrelevant stuff. It hurt. Bad.
I think the thing that bothered me most was when The Thesis writer suggested that I may have contrived how I started blogging in the first place. I told the world that Ali Martell introduced me to blogging when the Monkey was 8 months old, and that’s the truth — no questions asked. But, according to The Thesis writer, I “contrived” this bit in order to appear flippy and erratic or whatever. In another post, she ingeniously discovers, I mention that Jennifer Lawrence, who happens to be the author of the blog MUBAR (which no longer exists), helped me out when I was clinically depressed while pregnant with the Monkey. (And, by the way, an article was written about my prenatal depression and published in some major psychiatry journal — APA? — and, you betcha, the author asked my permission even though they used an alias and I’d never find it in a million years!). Yes, Jen Lawrence helped me, but it was OVER THE PHONE. I didn’t know she had a blog, or what a blog was.
Why does this bother me? Because it’s an insult to my integrity as a blogger. SURE, I might exaggerate things — for entertainment’s sake — here and there, and less so these days. But I would never flat-out lie. I would never “contrive” something. To me, that’s the ultimate insult to a blogger.
Somewhere, way out yonder in the internet ether, there’s a great old email conversation in which Ali reveals to me, “I HAVE A BLOG,” and to which I reply, “WHAT’S A BLOG???”
Anyway.
Whatever. I’m really okay now. I’m flattered that I’m in an MA thesis, even though the reading of “me” is false and unflattering for the most part. As you can see on twitter, I felt beyond violated and uncomfortable when I first read the thesis. But, I haven’t looked at it since, and I’ll never look at it again — and I feel better. And I can laugh at the broad assumptions, as I’ve also done on twitter:
And, this one….
Oops, how’d that tweet get there? (Disclosure: CONTRIVED.)
Here, see I can make light of The Thesis writer’s totally unfounded statement that I am the most “affluent” of all the bloggers (if she only knew!?):
Should the student have contacted me? It would have been the nice and, I think, scholarly thing to do.
Do I blame the student? Do I “hate” her SORT OF like Julia Child hated Julia Powell? No. I’ve done a Master’s Thesis, and I know how difficult that can be on several levels. This writer wrote the thesis in 2008. She’s obviously young, likely not a mother. There I go assuming, though….
As with all controversies surrounding “mommyblogging,” people are now taking the opportunity to troll thoughtful posts on the subject and preach about the ethics of “mommyblogging.” We’re putting ourselves and our kids out there for scrutiny and misinterpretation, so apparently we should just suck it up, not react, and just plain expect this. But, surely we’re allowed to “giggle” or “wail.” On twitter?
Know what happened to me today? I went to Starbucks (shut it — I’m not affluent — I got a card for Valentine’s Day). Rascal and I sat beside a woman who was typing on her mini laptop. When she got up to leave, she said:
You know, I’ve been watching you, and you’re a wonderful mother. I see the way you talk to him and look at him, the way he looks at you. And I don’t see that all the time, unfortunately. It’s amazing to watch you. And I’m a therapist….
That compliment, that observation of ME, was so beautiful and so welcomed given my current frustration. And, so often, my readers and fellow bloggers, whether in comments, twitter, or email, make me feel THAT good with their genuine, caring feedback and friendship.
You can’t read a blog and claim to know the writer. As I stated several days ago on twitter,
You can’t judge a blogger by his or her blog. It’s not a novel. It’s its own genre. One absolutely worth exploring at an academic level.
If you’d like to see a copy of The Thesis, just contact me — which is easy to do for the record….
Love!
xo Haley-O














































ali said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:31 pm
I can vouch for it. You definitely didn’t know what a blog was when I told you I had one.
.-= ali´s last blog ..Like September 9th… =-.
jodifur said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
You know what, that thesis is creepy, and really, really, poorly written.
I know that my blog is like 5% of of my life, as yours probably is too. What the author was missing is that we are more than our blogs, and more than twitter. That is just one part of us.
I’ve met you, and you are amazing.
Lindsey said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
She’s a Stupidhead. You’re awesome.
domestic extraordinaire said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
wow, I would think that they would have at least contacted you to let you know that they were doing it and to ask permission to use exerpts of your blog in their thesis.
crazy.
.-= domestic extraordinaire´s last blog ..Helping her catpure her bliss =-.
Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing] said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:47 pm
I have a Master’s degree as well, but I thankfully didn’t have to write a thesis. I find it very unethical to have not contacted you and the other bloggers after it was completed. For the sheer fact that she used your real information (not an alias, which she could have done), you deserved to be notified.
And for contriving the information about you and the others? Deplorable.
.-= Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing]´s last blog ..How my poo prevents me from a gold medal. =-.
Theresa said, February 21st, 2010 at 9:57 pm
I agree with Lindsey, she is a stupid-head. You are awesome. You are a wonderful mother. You are a funny, funny person. You are generous and caring. You help other people every day just by writing this blog, so thesis-smesis, seriously you love and you are loved, doesn’t get better than that sista! Don’t get me wrong I do get why you were/are pi#$ed, as you say it’s an insult to your integrity, period — not cool dude
But you’re “affluent” so just go buy yourself something nice, sorry had to add that last line
melissa said, February 21st, 2010 at 10:39 pm
i’m going with the stupidhead comment. she should have contacted you. it was very unprofessional and completely rude.
no matter. you’re awesome and that’s all.
xo
theotherlion said, February 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
So sorry you are having to deal with this. WOW. My history professor asked me before she used a paper I wrote for her as required reading for one of her classes. She didn’t HAVE to, but it was common courtesy. Why didn’t the profs raise a red flag on this? Maybe they did but it was too late?
Heather said, February 22nd, 2010 at 12:26 am
Wow! So, she studied mommybloggers, or rather read your blogs. Who knew all this time I could have been researching a thesis? Then she’s only writing to judge you? I could understand doing a thesis on the community aspect of blogging or even as a way of dealing with ‘mommy stress’, but to legitimize judging you? I think it’s very strange.
I’m glad you are able to dismiss this Haley, to know that a) she’s wrong and b) she doesn’t know you.
Lots of love!
.-= Heather´s last blog ..Help for Haiti =-.
Aurelia said, February 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 am
I stand by everything I wrote at Dani’s, but now you have me thinking.
What if lots was true? What if it wasn’t? What if it was all a work of fiction, written as a practice blog for someone’s creative writing course? (Those exist)
For all they know we are both 15 year old boys in sweatpants in our moms basement……now wouldn’t that fuck up her thesis? Emailing might clarify, or interviewing ppl who have met us, or researching and checking the context.
You know, the stuff she has to do for marks?
Oh silly me, I am just being too demanding. A bully, in fact. Oooppsie!
.-= Aurelia´s last blog ..It’s not like I thought =-.
SciFi Dad said, February 22nd, 2010 at 7:01 am
I think you may give the thesis author too much slack for being a young woman. Unless she is a prodigy, earning a Bachelor’s degree in 1991 would make her older than either of us.
.-= SciFi Dad´s last blog ..The Visit =-.
DaniGirl said, February 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 am
Well said, Haley. In the end, no matter how egregious her assumptions, she can’t change the fact that we’re super-awesome chicks who happen to blog.
I love that woman in Starbucks and what she said to you. That happened to us once in a McDonalds, and I’ve never forgotten it.
There’s a message in there for all of us: your words and your actions touch people all the time — make sure you use it as a weapon for good and not for evil!!
.-= DaniGirl´s last blog ..In which the Internet finally freaks her out once and for all =-.
Laural said, February 22nd, 2010 at 8:51 am
I read this when you posted the link. And I thought about it a bit over the weekend.
The truth of the whole situation in this.
I’ve never spent hours or days reading through your archives. I haven’t read your first post or really thought or cared about who first told you about blogs.
I don’t even remember how I came to your blog. I’m guessing I found you through Ali who always commented on Rebecca’s blog. Just a guess.
None of that matters.
What does matter is that I’ve read most of your posts. They are a highlight of my day, and something I look forward to.
I’ve never met you in person, but I feel like I know you, and consider you a friend. And, as a pretty dedicated reader I feel that you are pretty genuine and not contrived. Not at all.
I truly think that if you went through anyone’s archives you could find a bunch of stuff and prove pretty much everything.
I’ve been there (not in the same way) knowing someone has read my stuff and is judging me by something I wrote 4 years ago.
But, at the end of the day we read you cuz you’re you.
.-= Laural´s last blog ..This is why I’m Tired =-.
Haley-O said, February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 am
Isn’t that interesting, SciFi! And, that’s exactly why I inserted the statement (after making those assumptions in the post) that I was indeed “assuming” her age and situation — The Thesis writer didn’t do that in her thesis, which was obviously problematic. Shows how false assumptions can be, how quick and easy it is to assume…. Very interesting. I’m not going to open that thesis ever again to look at her age or anything! I don’t even know her name….
NEWMOM said, February 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
Great post. I totally do not blame you for feeling that way. However, that being said, as a reader, those things never came to mind. I choose to read your blog because in many ways I relate to you!! You shouldn’t worry too much about what people think. Your readers love you! The assumptions are completely unfair.
Also, in terms of the person at starbucks-there is no greater compliment that you could have gotten. You should feel SO good about yourself.
sk said, February 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 am
“Any press is good press!” That’s what they say here in Hollywood. I haven’t read the thesis, it obviously hit a nerve, but I think you have to look at the positive. Out of all the bloggers out there — millions! She chose yours. Whatever her assumptions are, your blog was interesting enough to dissect in a paper. That’s got to count for something?
.-= sk´s last blog ..Horse-N-Around =-.
LAVENDULA said, February 22nd, 2010 at 11:27 am
thats the trouble with making assumptions often they are unfounded.that person who wrote that thesis should have gotten her facts straight.and i like so many of your other readers i read you because i know how kind and compassionate and funny and awesome you are.that person also was very unprofessional by not contacting you for permission.and just a quick question how does she know how much money you make just by reading your blog? and is it really her business? i don’t think so.xo
Maya said, February 22nd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
I was reading through the creepy thesis and I was so pissed for all of you. Anyone can do that to any blog. She wanted to make a specific point and took things from the blogs that proved it in that specific context. wonder if she knows about this backlash!
hugs!
xoxo Maya “Gemini-Girl”
.-= Maya´s last blog ..What I Love About Blogging =-.
Emma said, February 22nd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
You’re awesome, you mommyblogger, you.
.-= Emma´s last blog ..Oot and aboot =-.
Dina said, February 22nd, 2010 at 6:08 pm
I just want to second what the lady at Starbucks said. You are a wonderful mother!
Jenifer said, February 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Oy! I would think checking your sources is mandatory, but that is just me.
Just keep doing what you are doing and never mind the rest.
.-= Jenifer´s last blog ..Summer lovin’ and the forgettin’ is easy =-.
Maria said, February 23rd, 2010 at 9:14 am
At the end of it all you bring a smile to someone’s day, or make another person’s worries seem o.k, and that is why you do it & what it’s all about. Keep blogging!
Alyssa said, February 23rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
This is my first time reading your blog. I’m a relative newbie to the blogging world. I certainly DON’T like what I’ve read about the presumptuous mini-academic. If she doesn’t know enough to follow proper protocol, what about her advisor? Doesn’t someone at her university approve her work? And, by the way, shouldn’t her “work” have been done in a more scholarly fashion?
Mommy bloggers, in my opinion, shouldn’t be held to “academic” standards, nor “journalistic” standards…but standards chosen and created by other mommies who blog. Yuck!!!!!
.-= Alyssa´s last blog ..I. Don’t. Compete. =-.
Teena in Toronto said, February 23rd, 2010 at 9:16 pm
It’s too bad the thesist (is that a word?!) didn’t get the facts right. But don’t let it get to you … she has to twist things to look good.
That was soooooo nice what the therapist said! It must have made you feel so good
.-= Teena in Toronto´s last blog ..Tuesday workout =-.
Amber said, February 24th, 2010 at 12:48 am
I have been back and forth on this, and my final opinion is that you have every right to be outraged. Even if what she did were strictly ethical by academic standards, that doesn’t mean it’s not hurtful. And in this context, as the subject of study, you can’t be expected to be aloof and dispassionate. I also feel very glad that I studied engineering, because you just don’t run into these sorts of issues in the same way – motors don’t have feelings.
And that is awesome that you got that kind of compliment. I think it carries far more weight, too, when someone has actually seen you.
.-= Amber´s last blog ..With the Touch of My Hand =-.
Rougeneck said, February 24th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
People tend to criticize what they fear and/or they don’t understand.
Also? I agree with earlier comments: she’s a stupidhead. Clearly.
.-= Rougeneck´s last blog ..I Am Going to BlogHer. WTF Me? =-.
Victoria said, February 26th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
It is an interesting idea but also scary… they should have asked your permission as one would for a magazine interview or something!
Jonathan said, March 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 am
Holy crap that’s a lot of comments on this post! (sorry for being away for so long btw)…
Isn’t it weird how we build pedestals for the authors of various papers that lots of eyeballs will see – and then discover that we might actually be better human beings than them.
.-= Jonathan´s last blog ..The many and varied facets of my idiocy =-.