I read your gossip column every week as emailed from the Urban Moms weekly mailer. I look forward to it every week. I am a 30 something mother of a 4 year old who has been trying to get pregnant again for the last two years. In my journey to get pregnant I have met a ton of woman along the way who have no children, and have been unsuccessfully trying for years. One thing this experience has made me realize is that we are blessed with one beautiful child and it would be really insensitive and selfish for me to complain about not having a second. Why am I saying this? I am tired of reading about how sick you are from being pregnant. Do you know how many women would love to have that problem just once in their lifetime? Many of these woman suffer in silence with their pain. I can only imagine the number of woman who read your blog and close the screen in tears after reading about how sick you are. Please think about how your comments make other women feel. I too was severely sick when I was pregnant so much so that I did not gain any weight throughout my pregnancy. I took the drugs and never complained about it. I was just so happy to be pregnant. Pregnancy is a gift. Its not a given. If you are really that sick, take the Diclectin and get over it already.
– Asquared, comment on today’s Will Ferrell post.
Dear Asquared,
I’m truly sorry that my blog has affected you in this way. And, I’m troubled that my writing about my pregnancy symptoms has struck you as insensitive and as a sign of ungratefulness.
Are you aware that I suffer from PREpartum depression? That I suffered from it in my first pregnancy, as well? Have you read those posts in which I try to bring awareness to this very painful condition? (Please see the posts in the category “Anxiety / Depression.”) Because, as extremely grateful as I am to be pregnant, pregnancy is a bigger challenge for me — both physically and emotionally — than most people can even imagine. And, as I always say, it’s all so worth it.
In the midst of this prepartum depression, from which I suffer painfully every single day, I have actually challenged myself to reflect in writing on the joys of pregnancy, and I have emphasized the fact that my complaints about my symptoms on this blog in no way relate to my gratitude. I urge you to read this post, in particular.
My kind and supportive commenters are also very right when they say (in response to your comment) that “this is my blog,” and that I should not feel the need to censor myself. Although I want to be as raw and real on BOTH blogs as I can be, I am aware that I have a responsibility — to choose my words carefully and to be as compassionate a writer and person as possible. And, I don’t take that responsibility for granted.
Of course, I don’t want anyone, as you put it, to “close the screen in tears after reading about how sick [I am]“! People are only allowed to cry with laughter from reading this blog! In any case, I do try to make light of my symptoms most of the time because, Asquared, they are DARKER than you could ever want to know. I have shielded my readers from some of the grosser realities of my daily life right now. And, now I’M crying.
Remaining light-hearted about my symptoms helps me deal with those grosser realities. It also helps other women who are going through the same thing — there are many of them out there, too. Yes, there are many pregnant women going through what I’m going through. I have received many emails thanking me for being so open about my struggle. This site has received countless hits from google searches for “pregnancy and anxiety,” “depression in pregnancy,” and the like.
You also got me thinking….There are single mothers out there. Is it insensitive of me to complain about how difficult my toddler can be when I’m privileged enough to stay home with her AND to have a husband help me raise her? I cannot please everyone. I cannot write for everyone.
No, I cannot please everyone, Asquared. All I can do is be as honest as possible — without being as dark and anxious as I could be given what I experience from the moment I wake up in the morning.
Prepartum depression, also known as antenatal depression, affects 10-15 percent of pregnant women — and perhaps more, since most women do not come forward with it. Because of my condition, no, I cannot take diclectin; it makes my symptoms of depression (i.e., panic attacks) worse. Thank you for the recommendation, though.
Seriously? I do NOT like talking about the same symptoms every single day on this blog. But, unless I close this blog down until they pass, there’s no way around it. It’s my reality (a lightened up version of my reality). And, as I said, many people relate deeply to what I’m going through.
I also don’t like to complain about my pregnancy symptoms because this SEEMS to suggest that I’m ungrateful for what I know is such a blessing, such a gift. I am CONSTANTLY reflecting on how blessed I am to be pregnant, constantly THANKING THE UNIVERSE for granting me this miraculous gift. (This is starting to feel a little too personal even for me, but….) Every night I devote time to being thankful for this pregnancy.
I have friends who are having great difficulty conceiving both first and second children. I have friends going through infertility treatments…for years — some with success and some without. I have friends trying to adopt. I am aware. I am sensitive. I am sorry. I am so sorry that you are having difficulty conceiving. So very very sorry.
I have tried to minimize discussion of my symptoms on both my blogs. One of the reasons for this is that I don’t feel like people want to hear about it — especially on the gossip blog (and, I’ve next to eliminated all discussion of myself on that blog because there’s nothing else I want to say about me). But, when I sit down to write on this, my personal blog, it’s what comes out. It’s what HAS to come out. It’s a release that you’re reading, my friend. It’s the way I help heal myself so that I can better take care of my child (my cheaty monkey who, thankfully, is too young to understand what I go through) and take care of my pregnant body and mind.
Pregnancy is very painful for me. But, it’s also an opportunity. An opportunity to release and to cleanse. This releasing and cleansing involves a disturbing and debilitating manifestation of major anxieties. This is what you’re reading on my blog. A process. An honest (but light-hearted) cleansing, releasing and preparation for another beautiful miracle.
Of course, this blog is not my only therapy. I have lots of professionals working with me, and lots of loved ones (and loved readers!) supporting me.
Thank you very much for sharing your point of view and your experience. I can’t promise I’ll stop writing about my symptoms, but know that I’m an extremely empathetic person, and I write largely because I HAVE to. Although I joke about my symptoms, they are very serious and very debilitating. But, they are worth it. Thank you for bringing to my attention, yet again, how grateful I should be even to have these symptoms — as painful as they are on so many levels.
I hope you understand a little better where I’m coming from. I certainly appreciate where you’re coming from. I wish you all the best in your efforts to conceive. And, I hope to bring you more laughter in the future — no more tears.
xo Haley-O












































Jenn said, April 18th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Haley, Just wanted to offer my support. I agree with the other posters that it is your blog, you can say whatever you’d like. That being said I don’t think you are complaining about being pregnant too much. Although I do not suffer with pre-partum depression it is so good to talk about these things so that people don’t feel like they are the only ones.
Long live the blog!
Jenn
The Phoenix said, April 18th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
I think anything that anybody can say can be taken as either harsh, insensitive, or downright wrong. It all depends on viewpoint.
I’m of the “hey, it’s your blog” group. But any criticism you might get is semi-invited, however. Whenever you open up your stuff to comments, you just mind find someone that is offended by something you say. It’s as inevitable as the wind.
Either way, just keep on keepin’ on.
allie said, April 18th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
I have to reply to this posting, just have to.
How does the reader not know or know if you indeed had difficulties in conceiving your 1st or 2nd child. I do have to agree that “it is your blog.” What about the mothers that read your blog that have lost a child? Or a mother that reads your blog that abuses her child? Or a wife that reads your blog that has a less than understanding abusive wife? There may be many other people that chose to X off of it for whatever reason…but it is your blog and what about that freedom of speech?? I say keep writing. You are more than interesting to me. Your blog is your own personal life and opinion and you are entitled to that. I personally have never suffered from pre-natal depression but I have from post-natal depression. I find your blog interesting and funny at the same time. I have empathy for you and your pre-natal depression, I can not imagine how you get through your days (with morning sickness, a busy Monkey, etc) but I can assure you that your blogging helps you along with your daily struggles.
You can’t please everyone Haley-O but you certainly are a “real” person with “real” feelings and you tell it like it is, you can’t make everyone happy. Don’t change your writing style of your blog or it’s content. If someone can’t handle reading your blog then they can chose to click the X at the top right corner.
I am not being insensitive to the feelings of a mother that cannot conceive, I’m just being realistic.
*hugs* to you and your family, be strong!!!
xo
Sparky Duck said, April 18th, 2007 at 11:54 pm
hey asquared, click the little x in the corner of the screen if you dont want to read about pregnancy. And don’t wander over to my blog either because I am sure their will be something you will want to attack as well, since I am all over the map, though not preggo, never will be
Sparky Duck said, April 18th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
oh and dont you just love the bashers who dont list their own personal info so we can see what they talk about
Michelle said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:04 am
I appreciate the tactful and non-confrontive way you responded to the comment. I’ve seen it before when a commenter leaves a criticism of a blog and the blogger goes ballistic and goes for the throat. While I do agree that it’s your blog and you are privileged to say whatever you wish, if you leave your comments open your commenters are also free to say whatever they wish. Usually criticizers sign “anonymous” and at least she had the guts to sign her name and it shows your class that you were still civil and kind to her. Thanks, I like your style.
Jodi said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:34 am
I think you handled that with much class, my dear! Bravo to you!
Truthfully, I don’t have kids so when I see you are talking about pregnancy and what not, I skim. As a reader, I choose what I read and don’t want to read…just like you choose what to write. I don’t begrudge you of being pregnant and I doubt you begrudge me because I don’t want to have kids. However, I do end up reading a lot of your pregnancy chatter anyhow, because I have been lurking around for a bit and just think you are pretty freakin’ funny at times!
Making light of the dark times is often our best defense so keep on chattering and I will keep skimming/pretty much reading all. lol!
SciFi Dad said, April 19th, 2007 at 6:58 am
Feel free to delete this comment if you feel it is inappropriate. I did my best to remove the expletives out of respect for you, Haley.
Where does this person get off, complaining about the content on a free blog? You don’t charge people to read it. You are not forcing them to come here every day and read it. That person comes here of their own volition (theoretically) every day and reads, and comes back because they enjoy what they have read. Now all of a sudden they are suggesting you censor yourself?
Please.
As other comments have previously pointed out, the simple fact that Haley writes about her life is enough justification (in that commenter’s eyes) to censor content! The commenter has the right to make their opinion, but in this case it is a slippery slope. If Haley censors herself in this case, what’s to stop someone else from commenting and saying, “My husband is over in Iraq, and I miss him a lot. So, don’t mention Josh anymore, because it makes me sad.” Ridiculous? You bet. But how is that any different than what the commenter asked?
Sometimes commenters get on their high horse and try to “teach” the blogger or make them aware of something. And in some cases it is a wonderful thing. In this case, however, it is not. Selfishly, they have taken their own impressions of Haley’s blog and attempted to use them to control the content on this site. Let me reiterate: the commenter is so selfish that they are asking Haley to change what she is writing about on her blog to suit the commenter’s needs.
In summary:
- no one is forcing you to read
- you didn’t pay to come here
- take whatever wonderful narrative Haley so graciously provides out of the goodness of her heart as is, because most of us would rather that than your vision of The Cheaty Monkey.
Multi-tasking Mommy said, April 19th, 2007 at 7:54 am
Oh, Haley!!!
I am so frustrated to read that you had a comment like that. Do people get that blogs are a personal thing and that a blog writer (if it is a personal blog) writes for themselves, not necessarily their readers?
I feel so honoured and grateful that you have chosen to be so open and honest about your experiences. It makes life more real and I do believe that you probably have helped other women to feel more “normal”. If we all hide our true feelings and experiences or if we hold them back or censor them, then how honest is the world we are really living in?
This is your space and I know I’ve said it before. I truly believe that you should write what you want to write, how you want to write it and as often as you like (including discussing your pregnancy symptoms ever day!!!). It is your right. And, while I understand that it would be hard for some people to read, I also believe that it is helpful and good for others to read. So, my honest opinion is that if someone is having a difficult time reading your blog right now due to personal reasons, I do feel for them, but maybe they should choose to take you off their list for a while and read elsewhere.
As you know, we have been trying for a while now for our second child and NOT ONCE have I ever felt (“she has nerve” or “how dare she write about this” or “she is ungrateful”)! It is obvious to me how truly fortunate you feel to be pregnant, you are just having a heck of a time with it!
This space is YOU, all about YOU and I love how we are reading daily all of the little and not so little stories, feelings and experiences that you have to share. It is a gift to be able to write so freely and you share it so well with us!
Thank you!
Susan Helene Gottfried said, April 19th, 2007 at 7:58 am
I’m firmly in your corner, Haley. My pregnancy with #2 was a nightmare, so much so that I was suicidal by the end of it. I cried when the doctors refused to induce me at 39 weeks. I did not know how I’d get through it.
Yes, this is your space to talk through it. In fact, I WANT you to talk MORE about it because reading your words and your experience helps me, four and a half years (and a mass of physical damage) later, I still need to heal from the nightmare it was. Yes, I’ve got this amazing little girl who is showing she’s as gifted as her big brother (if not more so), but that doesn’t mean I don’t still feel the pain and I don’t live with the fear of yet more physical problems from carrying her.
I spend a lot of time wondering if I’d have decided to have her if I’d known what it would do to me. I can’t answer that.
Yes, life is painful. But when you find something that helps you deal with the pain, you’ve got to hang onto it.
Love–
S.
s@m said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:06 am
You have my support Haley 200%. This is your site, your feelings to share.
You handled this situation so eloquently, you should be proud of yourself.
Shroom Monkey said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:11 am
personally, I like reading about you suffering- it brings me joy and little hints of glee
Just kidding… you know I love you…. unfortunatley, and fortunatley people bring thier own emotions into thier comments, but to be real if all we read was filtered for general public posts it would get awfully boring, awfully unhelpfull, and there would be no need for variation and no need for the wonderful array of writers and bloggers that get up everyday anxious to share thier lives, thier ups and downs, their joys and sadness. If someone can’t handle reading this due to their own circumstances they should really go elsewhere…
And no, as a single mom, I have never once read your posts and thought mmmm, that b**th ( I censored just for you!!) has it easy one kid, a husband…. I love reading about you and the monkey…. gives me a peak into your little world… our worlds are not the same, but we have a common ground… it binds us… people are way to serious if you ask me….
Melissa R. Garrett said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Haley ~ I think you handled this issue very appropriately. Had I known about blogging when I was pregnant and going through Hyperemesis Gravidarum (which affects about 1% of pregnancies ~ I was “lucky” to have it two out of three times!) there would have been nothing but bitching and complaining on my posts. That was my world at the time, my life. A lot of people don’t know that the condition even exists. And Haley, I had NO idea about pre-partum depression, and I think you are doing a wonderful thing by bringing it out in the open. I’m not sure if you’ve done it already, but perhaps you could write an informative post about what it is and how it affects women and what we can do to help.
And, Haley, I would love for you to e-mail me and share your experiences. This is just the perfect subject for my book I am writing. No one discloses this type of information when you are thinking about getting pregnant or when you are pregnant. Think about it, please.
Melissa R. Garrett said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:18 am
PS ~ Might you be able to take Zofran for your nausea and vomiting? It’s the ONLY thing that got me through my pregnancy with Bridget. With Hannah, I had to go through a lot of IV therapy because Zofran wasn’t readily available to pregnant women. And with Jacob, I just took each day at a time (the nausea and vomiting was only half as bad). Talk to your doctor??
drea said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:47 am
You know… this really is the one thing I cant stand about blogging… people take things the wrong way. Im thankful that she didnt hurl insults at you like Ive dealt with dozens of time over at my blog. People calling me immature, stupid, selfish, a hypocrit, bad mom, you name it I’ve been called it on my blog.
Why? Because some people dont agree w/ the ways I think and because of that they are offended and feel the need to lash out at me! When in all honesty they should keep their thoughts to themselves. After all what good are they doing to insult me? NONE!
I have not felt that you have sounded ungrateful or anything during the post where you mention how sick you are. You are just telling how you feel, theres not a thing wrong with that.
If a woman is having trouble and cant get pregnant reads your blog and rathers ungratefulness from that its their own fault. There is no reason to get upset with someone who blogs about this.
I have lots TWO babies and tried to get pregnant with my 2nd child for over a year.
The 1st baby I lost was at 3 months… I had two close friends who were around 5 months pregnant when I lost my baby… We continued to go on walks and all they would talk about was pregnancy this… pregnancy that! I was SO UPSET that I actually got bitter… BUT who am I to do this? Do I want my friends to not talk about it just because of my loss? NO. I dont.
I had to get past the fact I lost something that they had… and just continue to stay strong and pray that the Lord may bless me one day… which he did about 6 months later when I got pregnant with Caleb.
Jealousy, envy and bitterness can devour a person… they should be careful not to let their thoughts and emotions overtake them…
And I feel you with that depression stuff. It hit me really hard after having Taite. I never cried so much in my life! And YES I felt so guilty that I was so upset and sad when I really should of rejoiced in the blessing I had… because I wanted him SO BAD.
Crazy how our minds and bodies act sometimes.
Praying for ya girlie! You handled your self perfectly.
drea said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:49 am
good grief i had so many typos LOL, forgive me i have a newborn!
Green Eyed Girl said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Hon, this is your blog and you can write about whatever you want to. You can’t please everyone all the time. I think it is great that you can use this blog as a release and coping system for your symptoms. Life isn’t always happy and perfect. Do what you need to do for YOU!
CSL said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:03 am
You handled that well, and I have heard infertile women talk about their frustrtaion in hearing complaints from pregnant women or women who already have a child. But, as another patient said to me once, “Who can measure another’s pain?” Should I not write about my divorce because I was lucky to have many good years, or because I wasn’t left destitute or because I got two fantastic children out of the deal. Of course not – it’s my blog. You write about what you are experiencing, you write to process, you write for a million other reasons of your own. You don’t need to apologize for that, ever. Keep writing what you need to write Haley, and hold your head up.
Jennie said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:08 am
OHH you are so sweet and wonderful and tactful and empathetic. Wish I could hug you.
lisa said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:08 am
Haley this is very generous of you. No one has the right to question or criticise your experiences. We all have our struggles. You are certainly someone who is empathetic to the struggles of others. I am so sorry this commenter made you feel so badly. I hope writing it out helped.
While I am here I have to give her a big WHATEVER to the diclectin. Where do I start? It is a sedative. My doctor and a friend who is a biochemist had fairly bad morning sickness and would not take it. You have a good reason for not taking it. Plus I have never known anyone who it worked for. Apprently it did not work for your commenter if she didn’t gain any weight in her pregnancy.
Being nauseous every minute of everyday is absolute HELL. I think it is extremely insulting to tell any pregnat woman to just get over it, or to pop some pills. I admire that you keep writing and I understand why you have to mention how badly you feel. When you are this ill it never leaves your mind. It adds to your anxiety. I cannot even imagine how difficult this is for you.
Take care Haley, complain all you want. Like I said over at Denguys I know you are actually holding back!
lauraldawn said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:25 am
Haley
I read this a couple of times because I wanted to be fair in my comment.
I know it sucks to be a in a position where you want to have a baby and can’t. I get that.
What I don’t understand is bashing you because you are pregnant and sick. Like others have said, reading your blog is a choice. Every day I choose to read. There are a lot of blogs I don’t choose to read because their content annoys me or makes me upset.
For instance, right now I am not reading people who talk incessantly about Virginia Tech. Not because I don’t agree. But, because it makes me very sad, and emotionally I can’t deal. If you wrote an entire post on it I wouldn’t read it. Just because right now I don’t want to.
That’s not to say you shouldn’t write it. It’s just to say I would want to close out and read something else.
It’s the same with this. I feel for Asqaured. Totally. And I’m not judging her. But, at the same time, she has every right to say that right now reading about your pregnancy is too much.
I have a friend who was trying so hard to get pregnant when I was pregnant (by surprise which made it 10 times worse). She sent me an e-mail saying that she loved me, but seeing me pregnant was really hard for her, so for awhile she wasn’t going to hang out with me.
I got that. Completely. And, now she has an adorable baby and I was 100% rooting for her the entire pregnancy, and love her baby to death. But, she needed that break. She couldn’t deal. I got that.
It’s even easier on a blog.
Just don’t read.
But don’t be mad at you. And, for that matter, I have no idea how easy or hard it was for you to get pregnant (and I’m not asking). But, I do know that no matter how hard you try, it does not make pregnancy easy.
Ever.
Or childbirth …
And I can’t wait till we get to read about Monkey #2′s birth!!!
toni said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:39 am
As a mother of four children who were all adopted, I completely understand the pain your responder spoke of. I have lived it (and it never completely goes away). I moderated for a Christian infertility website and I know this specific pain can be overwhelming and even strangling at times.
That being said, I would encourage this responder to seek encouragement and support from others who stand directly in her shoes. I don’t think it’s fair to suggest you were being insensative by just stating how you’re feeling during your pregnancy. As you so appropriately said, you can’t write for everyone. Nor can you understand and relate to every experience that shapes every reader’s point of view.
Even over at the ministry I moderated for, there’s such a delicate dance of sharing the pain of infertility, then *feeling* that pain surface and sting when one of the moms announces that yes, she is finally pregnant. It’s like she crossed over a huge fence to another world because she finally achieved what every other woman there hopes to; pregnancy. Others *are* happy for her. And yet, it hurts them (again). But that ministry is a place where the pain *can* be shared, understood, and expected in it’s rawness.
On one’s personal blog however, you cannot always expect or anticipate how your words will affect others. Too many variables. For a pregnant woman to state how sick she is from being pregnant is a *very* common (expected) statement. As such, I don’t see it as insensative. If you were to say, “I’m so lucky, I get pregnant at the drop of a hat,” I might think that to be insensative. But to talk of morning sickness and how you feel about it is quite normal.
And based on my own experiences, YES, I do see how it could hurt this lady who has only one child. I do. I would encourage her to seek out others she can discuss that pain with, who can understand and relate to it and who can support her through those more challenging moments of infertility. If she is a Christian, I would encourage her to visit Hannah’s Prayer.org. What a WONDERFUL blessing she would find there in the women who would truly know her personal pain.
Blessings,
~Toni~
Rebecca said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:42 am
I’m smacking my head on my computer desk RIGHT NOW.
Complaining about pregnancy being hard DOES NOT equate being ungrateful for that pregnancy! I threw up THIRTY TIMES in one day while pregnant with The Baby and ended up getting hospitalized for deydration. If you wanted to hear some complaining, boy. You should have heard me that day. Oh, and then there was being on bedrest TWICE! That was boring – and yet the babies themselves were cherished, loved and yearned-for. Pregnancy can really, really suck.
Her problems with infertility do not make your pregnancy sickness and depression any easier to handle. Of COURSE you love and cherish the baby that you’re carrying – but pregnancy can be extremely physically and emotionally hard.
Five-alive said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:58 am
I think that reading blogs is a choice. If I don’t like what a writer says, than I don’t read the blog. I have never had the impression that you were ungrateful to be pregnant – on the contrary you have been very excitedat times.
I’ve never been pregnant, but if I ever am, and I experience your symptoms, at least I will know that I’m not the only one and that it will be alright. Thank you
crazymumma said, April 19th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Please don’t censor yourself hon.
I thought your response was marvellously sensitive.
LoriD said, April 19th, 2007 at 10:02 am
Are you feeling the love Haley? The fact that you responded to Asquared with such a thoughtful, detailed response instead of just flipping her the bird proves that you are none of the things she has accused you of being. You’re a good person and a good mom… I know that just from reading your blog.
I personally love hearing the updates on how your pregnancy is going and I’m rooting for you that your nausea will go away so you can enjoy your pregnancy.
Lisa said, April 19th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Haley- I really have nothing to add that hasn’t been said here. We have been secretly trying to get pregnant with baby #2 for quite a while now (uh, please tell me my mom isn’t lurking here?)and I feel that I can honestly say that hearing your story isn’t upsetting to me at all. It’s your blog, post about YOUR life. I’ll post about my struggle on my own blog. Actually, no, I won’t, cause then my mom would get involved, but I would if I wanted to! or something.
*hugs*
Lisa
LAVENDULA said, April 19th, 2007 at 10:34 am
oh haley,i never really understood how awful it is for you.until now.i’m so sorry.and the best thing you can do is just hold on until the pregnancy is over.i will pray for you.and i’m sorry for women who experience difficulty getting pregnant.but this is your personal blog and you can write about whatever you want to.and i know you are helping women who may feel the same way you do.and if someone is not happy reading your blog they should go and read someone elses.please don’t let this woman upset you in any way.sure shes entitled to her feelings and opinions.but so are you.and ,my friend ,i know how grateful you are for this blessing.i read about it every day.people should read between the lines some time huh?i’m upset enough to cry with you.you really handled that comment well/with compassion and honesty and the sweetness that is you.xo LAVENDULA
ali said, April 19th, 2007 at 11:24 am
i’ve said it before…your space, your words.
say what you want. if people like it, they’ll keep coming. if people don’t like it, they can find something else to read.
simple as that. but, i’m like you. trolly comments hurt. and they hurt like hell. it’s not someone disagreeing with you…people do that all the time. hell, you and i disagree on lots of things! it’s the hurtful, hateful comments. they are unnceccesary.
lots of love, Hales
you know i support you.
Tricia said, April 19th, 2007 at 11:28 am
I think it’s all been said above. Let me just add that you are a way bigger person than I am. Responding with such class to such careless and thoughtless comments is something I’d have great difficulty doing. I guess that’s why I don’t have a blog.
Hang in there girl! I know you know it, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!
Tricia
asquared said, April 19th, 2007 at 11:40 am
I have to apologize to you and your readers for my ignorance when it comes to blogging. I do not read blogs. As I explained I get your celebrity gossip blog from Urbans Moms and I have never gone onto your personal blog until yesterday. I should have taken the time to find the link to email you personally rather than use your blog space to voice my issue. That was truly my ignorance and I apologize for that. This whole situation is a great example of how the power of words can cause so much pain. Many of your readers thought I was expressing my personal pain but I was not. What prompted me to write that comment after reading your celebrity gossip was a conversation with a girlfriend of mine that I had last week. She is a manager at a retail store and we have become confidants through our struggles with fertility. Last week I stopped in to see her and she was really upset because one of her employees just announced that she was pregnant and did not want to be and was complaining about the side effects. She was crying to me at the back of the store. She could not understand how someone could be so insensitive. That conversation was what prompted me to write what I wrote. Had she read your article she would have been in tears. That was what I was trying to say. Because I don’t read your blog, I had no idea that you suffer from pre-partum depression. I can’t even begin to say I understand because unless you’ve experienced it you can’t, although I do truly sympathize. My heart pains for you. Pregnancy is supposed to be a happy time. People who know me know I always happy and optimistic. I wish I could bottle up my happy hormones and give them to you Haley-O so that you wouldn’t have to suffer. Your readers told me to get help. In the last two years I have been through the pregnancies of my three bestess friends. We all had girls the first time around and they are all 8 weeks apart. They are my support. I have never felt jealous or resentful of someone else’s joy of being pregnant. That’s not my personality. I hope you and your readers understand where I was coming from and will excuse my ignorance.
As for Haley-O, I wish you nothing but the best for the next 5 months and beyond. I will continue to read your gossip blog because it is the best. As your readers said, your blog is your blog and you can write whatever you want. I was not directing my comments at your blog but I realize that it did not appear that way. I hope that my comments did not cause you to shed a tear because that was not what I was trying to do. Just know that when I read your celebrity gossip, your comments make me smile. I hope that knowing that will make you smile today!!
she said, April 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Ungrateful for being pregnant? Bah! I’ve been reading your blog for eons and never once thought you didn’t love and cherish your monkey and feel the same way about the upcoming sprout.
It is nice to see the original commenter’s response. It helps put things into perspective, but doesn’t dull the original issue entirely.
Since I’ve started blogging, I’ve gotten some oddball complaint type comments that either
1) make no sense, or
2) bring too much of their own personal bias (mental models) to the table, or
3) prove the person didn’t actually READ what I wrote
I don’t moderate my comments for content (only spam) but somedays I do read the comments and wonder just what the person was thinking before hitting the submit button. Reading your comment and response, I’d definitely say this would be one of those days had it appeared on my blog!
Holmes said, April 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Nobody has the right to tell you what to say in your blog, period. The effect that your posts may have on others is not your responsibility. You’re doing a great job.
Tug said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
You, as I knew you would, did wonderfully. And it was nice of asquared to get back to you also – a lot of it because of how YOU handled this. You’re awesome Hales!!
Vanesa said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I know that no matter how many times all of us, your fans, say that your blog is great and that we all LOVE you, the yesterday’s comment will hurt. It seems that it was an misunderstanding, but still, those words hurt. Because anyone who had read even just one of your bloggs cannot even imagine you being insensitive to other people’s feelings and needs.
I’ve only ready the asquareds comment today, and it is SO insensitive. Just because she is hurt does not give her the right to make somebody else feel bad (and especially when that someone else is pregnant and being sick every single day!)
Haley-O, please try to put that comment out of your head, and feel the love and care we all are sending to you!!!
Kisses and hugs!
Dina said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
Haley,
I really hope you do not change a thing. Your blog had helped me SO MUCH and I look forward to reading everything you write.
Keep up the great work. It seems you have a lot of fans out there.
You’re the best and I hope you feel better soon.
Gwen said, April 19th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I am glad that asquared apologized. I know that doesn’t take away all the hurt that her comment caused, but I hope that the love and support of the other commenters helps. We love you and if you need to be less light hearted about your situation let us know. Feel free to email me anytime. I am an excellent listener.
Jenifer G. said, April 19th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Ok a little late and all and just trying to catch up here. Saw the apology so that is good.
We come here to hear you is all I am going to say. No one forces me and I come because I like what you have to say.
The end.
Erin said, April 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
I will keep this short as many of the comments all ready reflect my feelings on things…
) and your pregnancy celebrations and worries. The pregnancy woes help me remember why I am so done with pregnancy. The Monkey woes make me know I am not alone! Even if it is the internet – I get some comfort in knowing that everyday I can open up my computer and read that someone else has experienced “55 mph peas flying at them” I love this blog and your gossip blog at urbanmoms. Don’t let one comment bring you down.
However I definetly want to show my support to you- I enjoy reading about the monkey, your Clive and Will love,(no matter how weird it is
xoxo
Jodi said, April 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
There is no way you are going to please everyone – but, wow – I wouldn’t have seen that coming… Great response. Please keep being “you”.
LG said, April 19th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
You handled that with grace and poise.
B said, April 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Haley I like your response to her, She is obviously upset and reacting in defense is not the way to go. People often express themselves in ways others feel uncomfortable with, but we need to not take things so personal, her letter had NOTHING to do with you and your blog and everything to do with how she feels about herself.
FENICLE said, April 19th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Are you serious? My husband & I are struggling with the news that we may not be able to have any more children (due to injuries from a serious car accident a couple years ago). We always knew it was going to be an uphill battle, but looks as though there will be no battle.
So speaking as someone who reads your blog & can’t get ‘pregnant’….I LOVE IT!!! I love reading about your pregnancy (the good & the bad). And if anything, it makes me glad I’m not you
(KIDDING!!!)
As for this reader, next time you reply to them just say this-
“See that little box with an ‘X’ in it in the top right hand corner of the screen? Just click it!”
Nough said!
Laurie said, April 19th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Everyone has to have their own experiences. It is wrong for her to make you feel bad for expressing yours.
Feel well.
Mary said, April 19th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
A while ago, I wrote about missing my boyfriend during a really rough time (my parents leaving…) I got three or four AWFUL emails (at least they didn’t comment) about how ungrateful I am that he is usually here – he was just out of town. One had a deceased boyfriend and two others had soldiers in Iraq. It was terrible. I felt awful because 1, I didn’t think anyone read my blog and 2, I just write for me.
I am so sorry you are having to go through this, but you approached this so tactfully which makes me respect you so much. Good luck!
The Cheaty Monkey said, April 20th, 2007 at 12:52 am
[...] First, I gotta thank you all so much for your support and encouragement in response to yesterday’s post. I TOTALLY LOVE YOU SO MUCH! MWAH!!! [...]
Speakeasy said, April 20th, 2007 at 9:57 am
Now I feel the love.
That was a great comment by asquared and a FANTASTIC post by you, Haley. Kudos for taking the high road. I would say more, but the other 46 people have said it already.
Be well!
WO
mamatulip said, April 20th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Haley, I’m impressed with the manner in which you responded to your commenter. You did it with grace and class, and I’m not sure others would have if they’d been on the receiving end. Bravo to you; this goes to show what kind of person you are.
Teena said, April 20th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
What a harsh email from that woman. She doesn’t walk in your shoes so has no idea what you go through. But as others have said, I think you handled your response very professionally.
Dayn said, April 20th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
I’m sorry but I think that comment was RUDE RUDE RUDE… especially a mother of 4 should understand that every mom needs an outlet to release some of her complaints, concerns (good/bad) If YOUR blog works for you and keeps you grounded there is nothing wrong with a little venting…I have two babies back to back. I can’t imagine saying what she did to another mother. I thought we were supposed to stick together and have eachothers back.. Maybe she has some venting to do of her own…
Maxx said, April 22nd, 2007 at 2:21 am
hi
denguy said, April 23rd, 2007 at 10:10 am
High five, Cheaty, high five.
Jilly O. said, April 23rd, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Wow. I’m sorry to read that you received an email like this. It sucks because I know how much this must have hurt you. I hope you’re feeling ok.
jodi said, April 24th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
I left this comment on Mom’s daily dose which brought me here, but it seemed appropriate to leave it here as well.
I had a really tough pregnancy. And I hated being pregnant. I was on and off bedrest and hospitalized and just sick, a lot.
Someone told me they never heard of anyone hating being pregnant and the baby could hear me when I said that. Someone else said if I changed my attitude I would like being pregnant.
You know what, shut up. You feel how you feel and there is nothing you can do about it and you should not feel guilty.
Liz said, April 24th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
I haven’t read any of your blog (I came here from Mom’s Daily Dose), but I just had to say that I totally get where you’re coming from. It absolutely infuriates me to hear the argument that, because some people have difficulty in conceiving, anyone who is lucky enough to get pregnant has no right to complain about their “lesser” ills. Well, IMO that is totally wrongheaded. Nobody has the right to tell anyone else that what they feel is not valid. I am sure that infertility is heartbreaking for those who have to deal with it, and I am very, very sorry for anyone who does. But what has that got to do with what you write about your own life? Why should it invalidate your feelings? It’s like saying to a kid that because there are children elsewhere in the world who are starving, they have no right to complain that they don’t like their dinner. It is intellectually dishonest and rude, and I am sorry you had to deal with it.
laughing mommy said, April 25th, 2007 at 12:41 am
I came over from Mom’s Daily Dose. I just had to comment.
Sharing your story could help others, so please keep sharing it!
For instance, just reading this one post a lightbulb went off over my head. I had anxiety attacks so bad with my first pregnancy that I had to seek treatment from a psychologist (weekly office visits). I haven’t had a single anxiety attack since the pregnancy was over. I felt so alone. Pregnancy was really hard for me.
I’m going to read your archives, and probably cry, because I’ve probably found answers that I was looking for nearly four years ago.
Keep writing.
Mrs. Flinger said, April 26th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
I’ve neglected writing about my anxiety and increasing depression late in pregnancy. Somehow I went from “I blog for me” to “I have people that read that might not “get” the feelings I want to write about.” So I haven’t.
That’s so wrong.
Write what you’re writing. Keep being honest. Some of us need to know we’re not the only ones and also that it’s OK to be yourself “out there” even if it’s on a website.